Ta-Nia in conversation, and why this theatre work matters now

A few days before its Zurich premiere, I encountered a work that felt less like a production preparing itself and more like a space still listening. Two days after the premiere, I sat down with its makers to talk about trust, institutions, and what it means to invite people into a room without telling them who or how to be.

By Tallulah Patricia Bär

AfroSwissters saw (What You’ll Find) On the Way to Becoming together on 4 February 2026 at the Schiffbau of Schauspielhaus Zürich, followed by REMAIN, our collective conversation.

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A few days before the premiere of (What You’ll Find) On the Way to Becoming, I attended a rehearsal in Zurich (thank you, Meloe). The rehearsal took place at Schauspielhaus Zürich, one of Switzerland’s largest publicly funded theatres and one of the most influential stages in the German-speaking world. For readers outside Europe, that detail matters. Work presented here does not sit at the margins. It enters the centre of cultural life, a space where theatre engages directly with questions of public responsibility, social change, and who is being addressed, and how. What I encountered that evening did not feel like a production preparing itself for opening night. It felt like a work still listening.

Performers moved between dialogue, music, stillness and repetition. The stage suggested a nightclub more than a proscenium: bodies gathering and dispersing, sound shaping the room, moments allowed to breathe rather than resolve. The atmosphere was attentive, alert and unforced. Even in rehearsal, it was clear that this was not “just a play” organised around plot points or dramatic escalation. It was built around something quieter and more demanding: how people share space with one another. There was no sense of the work performing for approval. Instead, it seemed to be testing conditions: how much time could stretch, how stillness might be held, how an audience might be invited in without being instructed. What stood out was not polish, but intention.

Two days after the premiere, I sat down privately with the makers of the work, Talia Paulette Oliveras and Nia Farrell, the New York and Los Angeles–based theatre duo who work together as Ta-Nia. By then, the piece had only just begun its public life in Zurich, Switzerland of all places. It had met its first audiences, absorbed their presence, and begun to shift slightly from night to night. It had crossed a threshold, from internal listening to public encounter.

Our conversation took place at that early moment, after first contact, before distance or categorisation had settled in. We did not speak about reviews or reception. We did not dissect responses or measure success. Instead, we spoke about how they work, why they work this way, and what it means to invite people into a shared space without telling them who or how to be. We spoke about attention, responsibility and trust: not as abstract ideas, but as practical choices that shape how a room feels, how people move within it, and what becomes possible between strangers.

Who Ta-Nia are, and how their collaboration took shape

Ta-Nia is not a production label or a loose collaboration. It is the shared artistic practice of Talia Paulette Oliveras and Nia Farrell, two artists whose paths crossed while studying theatre at NYU in New York, but whose collaboration only began years later, once each had developed a clear sense of what they wanted theatre to be for.

Talia Paulette Oliveras and Nia Farrell of Ta-Nia
Talia Paulette Oliveras and Nia Farrell (Ta-Nia). Photo © Binta Kopp

That delay matters. Their partnership did not emerge from proximity or convenience, but from mutual recognition. They watched each other’s work over time, noticed how their questions aligned, and waited until the conditions felt right. When they finally decided to work together, they describe the moment with a striking softness, less like forming a company than like making a personal proposal. Intentional. Relational. Unhurried. That way of beginning flows through everything they create together.

Nia Farrell: ritual, imagination and near-futures

Nia Farrell comes to theatre as a writer, performer, and what they call a mundane Afrofuturist. Their work is rooted in speculative thinking, but not in distant or abstract futures. Nia is interested in near-futures: possibilities that begin in the present, shaped through imagination as a practical, collective muscle. On stage and screen, Nia’s work often centres ritual as a way of honouring Black life not as trauma or metaphor, but as lived, dreaming, future-oriented reality. Their performances invite audiences to rehearse different ways of being together, not by explaining those futures, but by briefly inhabiting them.

Alongside experimental theatre contexts such as National Black Theatre, Ars Nova, Second Stage Theater and Williamstown Theatre Festival, Nia also works within mainstream production structures. As Director of Development and Production at Nine Muses Entertainment, founded by Bryce Dallas Howard, they support projects across film and television, including collaborations connected to Disney+ and Imagine Docs. That dual position shapes how Nia understands institutions: how to navigate them, when to push against them, and when to use their resources without being shaped by their expectations.

Talia Paulette Oliveras: theatre as space, theatre as care

Talia Paulette Oliveras approaches theatre as a space of potential, an ever-evolving “now” where story, body, memory and presence intersect. Of Dominican and Puerto Rican descent, Talia’s artistic practice is inseparable from their work as a community healer, and from spiritual lineages inherited through their grandmothers, who served their communities as caretakers and healers. Alongside formal theatre training and work with institutions such as the Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM), Ars Nova, The Public Theater, The Shed and the experimental company Mabou Mines, Talia has trained in Reiki, herbal medicine, trauma-informed care and healing justice, and has organised with grassroots movements focused on mutual aid, food sovereignty and community defence.

This background is not an add-on to their theatre work. It is foundational. For Talia, theatre is not primarily a vehicle for representation or storytelling, but a way of shaping spaces where people can be present with themselves and one another, without having to justify that presence.

A shared lineage, a shared method

Both artists come from experimental theatre traditions in the United States, particularly those shaped by Black performance histories. In these traditions, theatre has often functioned less as display and more as gathering: a place for repetition, ritual, humour, grief and collective processing. Story matters, but it does not dominate. What matters equally is how people are brought together, and what becomes possible once they are. That lineage is present in the piece not as reference or quotation, but as structure. The work does not ask what the audience should understand. It asks what the audience might experience together, and then builds patiently toward that experience.

This commitment to theatre as a practice of gathering rather than instruction is what gives Ta-Nia’s work its clarity. And it is what makes their arrival in Zurich feel less like a one-off production and more like a meaningful encounter between artistic worlds.

How their way of working meets Switzerland, and the moment it is entering

That Ta-Nia’s work has arrived in Zurich is not incidental. It enters a cultural landscape shaped by publicly funded institutions, formal selection procedures and long planning cycles that concentrate curatorial and programming decisions in relatively few hands. These structures determine which artistic practices are granted time, space and institutional legitimacy, and which remain peripheral, often regardless of their merit or international standing.

This system offers continuity and security, but it is not neutral. Like many publicly funded cultural ecosystems across Europe, it reflects long-established ideas about professionalism, audience behaviour and aesthetic value, shaped by particular histories of taste, education and access. In practice, work that is clearly framed, emotionally contained and easy to place within existing narratives tends to move more smoothly through funding and programming. Work that unfolds slowly, resists clear categorisation, or redistributes attention and agency within the room can be harder to place, even when it is careful, demanding and rigorously made.

Ta-Nia encountered this logic directly. Before arriving in Zurich, they were warned, more than once, that this kind of theatre “wouldn’t work in Switzerland”. Not as an explicit rejection, but as a quiet assumption: that audiences here would remain distant, that participation would be limited, that the form itself might be too open, too bodily, too unresolved. The warning proved less a diagnosis of audiences than a projection of institutional habit, a set of expectations about how audiences are supposed to behave, how emotion should be managed, and how much uncertainty a public institution can comfortably host.

This dynamic is not unique to Switzerland. Across Europe and North America, cultural institutions work under pressure from several directions at once: calls for restraint and neutrality, closer scrutiny of public funding, and a backlash against work perceived as political, difficult or demanding. At the institutional level, these pressures show up less as ideology than as caution. What is often described as elitist hegemony tends not to appear as exclusion, but as norm: assumptions about how audiences should sit, listen, respond and leave largely unchanged; expectations that emotional intensity be moderated, that participation remain discreet, and that difference be translated into familiar forms before it is fully welcomed.

Seen against this backdrop, Ta-Nia’s work does something quietly unusual. It does not ask the institution to give up its structures. It asks for a different use of the same room: time that is allowed to stretch, attention that is shared rather than directed, an audience that is not steered towards a single correct response.

What the work does

(What You’ll Find) On the Way to Becoming is built less like a story than like a gathering. Music, movement, stillness and repetition shape the room, and moments are allowed to breathe rather than resolve. The piece draws on what Nia calls mundane Afrofuturism: not distant futures, but near ones, rehearsed in the present.

Ritual is not decoration here. It is the structure that holds people while they try something unfamiliar: being together in a theatre without a script for how to behave.

Participation, invited and never required

The work leaves room for different ways of being present: moving or staying still, speaking or listening. None of these is treated as the right answer. That matters in places where audiences are usually expected to be quiet, seated and correct. Here, the permission is the point. You decide how close you come, and the work holds you either way.

You only need to arrive

Perhaps the most generous thing about the piece is how little it asks of you before you begin. You do not need to know the references, the history of experimental theatre or the vocabulary of Afrofuturism. You do not need to perform openness. You only need to arrive, and to let the room do some of the work. For many people, that is not a small offer.

The debrief

The debrief that followed was powerful. It felt spiritual, inspiring, even therapeutic, not in a staged or self-conscious way, but because something real had been touched. What struck me most was how much unsaid, held-back energy suddenly had somewhere to go.

It became clear how rarely we are given spaces that allow this kind of release. The performance had opened something, and the debrief made it possible to stay with it. Not to analyse it away, but to speak from it. People were responding to what the work had called up in them: in their bodies, in their memories, in how they had been sitting in the room.

That is the power of theatrical interpellation: a work that doesn’t tell you what to think or feel, but addresses you directly enough that you recognise yourself in the call. When people who share that sense of recognition are allowed to come together, something shifts. The energy that usually stays suppressed, because there is no place or no language for it, begins to move.

The debrief showed that the work didn’t end when the lights went up. It continued in the act of gathering afterwards, in the simple permission to name what had been stirred, or to let it be present without needing to resolve it. It felt less like a discussion and more like a continuation of the space the piece had already created.

Thank you to Talia Paulette Oliveras and Nia Farrell for their time and openness, to Meloe for the rehearsal, and to Dr. phil. Yuvviki “Yuvvi” Dioh and the whole Schauspielhaus Zürich team for welcoming AfroSwissters.

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